2023/08/31 15:00:34
hdmaniac
С чипом читает естественно, зону можно переключить...
2023/08/31 15:48:52
Feanor
serrge
 
Поскольку он все равно будет стоять в закрытой стойке, то шум и внешний вид не так критичны, то скорее всего это будет 820)
 




Если вы уверены на 100%, что плеер будет стоять в закрытой стойке, тумбе и т.д. и это будет постоянно и надолго, то тогда конечно 820й выглядит привлекательно. За закрытую стойку еще играет и тот момент, что раз вы будете брать американский плеер Панасоник на 120 В / 60 Гц и вам понадобится адаптер под наши сети, то учтите, что эти адаптеры (особенно недорогие, типа Robiton и пр.) издают приличный и вполне заметный писк и шум дополнительно, особенно при нагреве с течением времени. Сам это ощутил на своем опыте на нескольких адаптерах разных китайских брендом и мощности. Если почитать в инете отзывы о них, то частенько этот момент в работе адаптеров отмечают пользователи. Так что вот такой минус идет бонусом при выборе американского оборудования, который первоначально может быть не очевиден, но потом создаст серьезный дискомфорт. Пока что тихого адаптера, причем небольшого, лично я не нашел, вполне возможно, что дешевого его такого и не существует в природе. А кто пишет, что ничего не слышит при работе такого адаптера - вероятно он размещен либо в закрытой тумбе либо какие-то еще внешние устройства или техника рядом перекрывает этот шум.
 
P.S. По мультизонированию плеера не спешите, я бы пока подождал, если не горит конечно, ставить внутрь чип. Вполне вероятно осенью появится взломанная тестовая прошивка regionfreedom. Чип всегда можно успеть купить)
2023/08/31 16:48:18
Slightly Mad
824 очень тихий, слышу только когда запускается диск, потом тишина. Сижу тоже в полутора метрах примерно.
2023/08/31 18:10:30
hdmaniac
кстати, сегодня вышла новая прошивка для ПАНАСОНИК https://av.jpn.support.panasonic.com/support/global/cs/bd/download/ub420/ub420_euro.html
кто не ставил чип, можно попробывать и отписаться что там за улучшения, если есть...
 
2023/08/31 18:43:19
Lenny Nero
Slightly Mad
824 очень тихий, слышу только когда запускается диск, потом тишина. Сижу тоже в полутора метрах примерно.




Просто некоторые сами своим носом так сопят, что им хоть Пентиум на Win95 под этим носом загружайся, не слышно ничего, а иным муравьи в ковре шуршат - чтобы взять два противоположных экстрима.
Хотя с писком адаптеров тут уже совсем в анальную зону скатываемся.
В любом случае тогда лучше всего образы с флэш памяти на медиа плеере смотреть, чтобы ничего не звенело и не крутилось нигде.
 
Jeez, звук от любого фильма или сериала перекроет самый пластиковый и дешёвый 'взлетающий' плеер. 
 

2023/09/11 09:48:17
serrge
Feanor
 
Если вы уверены на 100%, что плеер будет стоять в закрытой стойке, тумбе и т.д. и это будет постоянно и надолго, то тогда конечно 820й выглядит привлекательно. За закрытую стойку еще играет и тот момент, что раз вы будете брать американский плеер Панасоник на 120 В / 60 Гц и вам понадобится адаптер под наши сети, то учтите, что эти адаптеры (особенно недорогие, типа Robiton и пр.) издают приличный и вполне заметный писк и шум дополнительно, особенно при нагреве с течением времени. 




 
Да, спасибо, что напомнили про 110v надо изучить вопрос с трансформаторами
 
 
Нас сегодняшний день, я смотрю в штатах, 820 чуть подорожал и стал 497 дол., а 9000 подешевел и стал 997 дол.
 
 
2023/09/12 09:21:14
Dumon_RNR
Неожиданно обнаружил, что вышла прошивка Ver 1.76 для линейки Панасов 824-424 и т.д. У кого отключено автообновление, проверяйте. С виду изменений не заметил. Пишут: Playability of Ultra HD Blu-ray Disc.
2023/09/12 10:46:07
Feanor
Я бы пока не торопился ее накатывать, есть шанс, что ребята все-таки доломают прошивку 1.69 от regionfreedom и выложат ее бесплатно. Непонятно, как она тогда станет на 1.76 официальную прошивку от Панасов. Не слышал каких-от отзывов, что прям существенно изменилось с выходом новой прошивки, да, типа улучшено воспроизведение UHD дисков, но каких и каким образом, не понятно. 
2023/09/12 11:44:39
RDA
Feanor
...... как она тогда станет на 1.76 официальную прошивку от Панасов. Не слышал каких-от отзывов, что прям существенно изменилось с выходом новой прошивки, да, типа улучшено воспроизведение UHD дисков...



В прошивке 1.76 нет явных улучшений по 4К, знакомый глянул её, производитель поменял алгоритм архивирования и защиту расчета контрольной суммы модулей прошивки (всех модулей). Видимо так "борются" с ребятами, которые хотят "региональной свободы".
 
На счет свободного доступа к "правильной" прошивке 1.69 - еще не скоро..... совсем не скоро...
2023/09/17 11:45:52
hdmaniac
Feanor
Я бы пока не торопился ее накатывать, есть шанс, что ребята все-таки доломают прошивку 1.69 от regionfreedom и выложат ее бесплатно. Непонятно, как она тогда станет на 1.76 официальную прошивку от Панасов.

так они вроде как уже сделали. но выше на официал на 1.76 не поставить. В отличии от Rattlebуte, на которую можно накатить и на новую.
Подложку на сабах так и не убрали, только цвет поменяли на черный, вместо синего, вообщем шило на мыло. Кто хочет поэкспериментировать
то есть инструкция, нужно зарегиться там и скачать для эксперимента. но если вы обновили плеер то смысла нет пока...
p.s. я надеялся что они шрифт на сабы лучше сделают, уберут подложку, а так пока для себя не вижу смысла качать...
 

 
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Last modified September 14th, 2023
Follow this guide to patch your Panasonic Blu Ray / UHD player to make it region-free. This guide is for Windows users. Since the patch was made for Linux systems, will we use Virtualbox to run Lubuntu Linux inside Windows.
We have not tested this on Mac/OS using Virtualbox. It should (in theory) work on Macs with Intel's x86_64 architecture, made before late 2020. It absolutely WILL NOT work on Macs with Apple's ARM architecture, made in late 2020 and after.
This patch was created by JohnyL and DreckSoft, with assistance from AvForums users.
The Lubuntu virtual machine was prepared by prodarek. It contains all of the files you will need for patching.
DISCLAIMER: Patching the player is a dangerous and error-prone process. The authors will not take any responsibility for any damages. If you don't know what you're doing, don't do it.
You can learn more about the evolution of this effort at the following AvForums thread: "Let's Try to Put the Free in Region Freedom."
https://www.avforums.com/...regionfreedom.2441584/
Any patch updates will most likely be listed on that thread.
This patch will ONLY work if your Panasonic player firmware is 1.69. You can check by starting your player, then navigating to "Setup / Player Settings / System / System Information / Firmware Version Information." After you complete the patching process, your player might occassionally prompt you to upgrade your firmware, even years from now. DO NOT upgrade or you will lose the benefits of this patch and possibly worse. There may be a future patch for a future firmware version, but for now, stick with 1.69.
This patch will ONLY work for the following Panasonic model numbers:
UB420, UB424, UB820, UB824, UB9000, UB9004
Instructions:
1. Download the following files and programs:
* VirtualBox via https://www.virtualbox.org/
Select your operating system, download, and install with the default options.
* prodarek's's prepared Lubuntu virtual machine via bit.ly/3Pz5Bxq
Unzip the folder to your Windows machine and take note of the directory. If this link stops working, check the AvForums thread to see if there is an updated version.
2. You will also need a USB drive. Make sure you don't need whatever is on it because we will be reformatting it.
3. On your Windows machine, open Virtualbox.
In the top middle of the Virtualbox window, click the icon named "Add." Navigate to the directory where you unzipped the Lubuntu virtual machine. Open "lubuntu.vbox".
Once added, click the "Start" icon to run the new virtual machine. If you get errors, you probably need to enable virtualization in your bios. To do so, restart your computer and click the key that opens your bios. This is different for every motherboard but will most likely be Del, F10, or F12. Somewhere in the bios settings, you will see an option to enable virtualization.
You may still get some errors, but as long as Lubuntu starts and you can see the Lubunto desktop, you are good to go.
4. Once the Lubuntu virtual machine is started, plug the USB drive into your computer. To mount the USB drive in Lubuntu, in the top menu of the Lubuntu window, click "Devices / USB" and then select the name of your USB drive.
Click "Open in File Manager." You can minimize this File Manager window for now.
5. Still on the Lubuntu desktop, click the folder called "Panasonic Patcher." Double-click the program called Patcher and select "Execute."
Accept the software user agreement.
You are now inside the patching software. We will be returning to this software several times in this process.
6. At the top right of the patcher, click "Select USB Device." and then select your USB drive. Make sure you select the correct drive, or else you might accidentally erase something valuable.
Now click "Create USB." When prompted, enter the system password "lulu". The progress indicator is broken and will be stuck on 0 percent, but you can ignore it.
The patcher will begin formatting and writing to your USB drive. This will take several minutes. When finished, you will see a message that says something like "Successfully wrote [ 4096.00 Mb ] to [ /dev/sdb ]."
7. Navigate back to the File Manager window (still on your Lubuntu virtual machine.) Click the eject icon by the USB drive. This will unmount the drive so you can safely unplugged it.
DO NOT skip this step.
Once unmounted, remove the USB drive from your computer.
8. Bring the USB drive to your Panasonic player, but don't stick it in yet. Power on your Panasonic player if it's not already on.
We need to make sure that a feature called "Quick Start" is turned off. This feature essentially leaves your player in a powered-on state even when turned off. In order for this patch to work, we'll need to completely turn off the player at several points in the process. To disable "Quick Start", navigate your player menu to "Setup / Player Settings / System / Quick Start". Make sure it is set to "Off".
9. Now power off your player. If you want to make sure it's completely powered-off, you can unplug/replug the power cable.
When the player is completely powered off, insert the drive. You can use the front or back port. Make sure no other USB device is plugged in.
Power your player back on.
Now we need to find your Panasonic player's IP address. Navigate your player menu to "Setup / Player Settings / Network / Network Settings / IP Address-DNS Settings". Take note of your IP address.
Escape back to the player's main menu. Leave it powered on, and leave the usb drive inserted.
10. Return to your computer and the Lubunto virtual machine. Bring up the Patcher window. If you closed it, that's ok. Just open it again.
11. In the Patcher, type your IP address in the top left corner where it says "Player Ip," then click "Connect."
12. Once connected, a new option will appear at the top of the Patcher called "Exec Script." Click "Exec Script."
The dumping process should take from a few seconds to a few minutes. Make sure your Panasonic player stays on throughout the process. You will know it is finished when it says "### DONE ###".
13. When the dumping is finished, return to your Panasonic Player. Power down the player. Make absolutely sure it is completely powered-down. You can unplug the power cord if you are not sure.
After your player is powered-down, remove the USB drive and bring it back to your computer.
14. Plug the USB drive into your computer. Your Windows machine (not Lubuntu), may tell you that the drive is unrecognizable and needs to be formatted. Just click cancel on those popups.
Bring up the Ubuntu virtual machine and mount the drive (Lubuntu top file menu / Devices / USB and then the name of your USB drive.) Click "Open in File Manager."
You may now see two partitions on the USB drive. The one we're using is 4096.00 Mb and contains the file script.sh, among many others.
In a moment, we'll need to navigate to the USB drive directory in a terminal window. While we're still in Lubuntu's File Manager, you can take note of the USB drive directory location by clicking one of the files inside the drive, then selecting "Properties." You'll see the location near the top. You can select it and copy it if you like, to paste later.
15. Now navigate to the Lubuntu start menu at the bottom left corner of the Lubuntu virtual machine. Select "System Tools / QTerminal".
16. In Qterminal, type "cd" followed by the directory of the USB drive, then hit enter. It will be something like, "cd /media/lu/XXXX-XXXX". If you copied it before, you can just paste it here. Hit enter.
17. Now type "dir" and hit enter to see the files in the directory. You should see a number of files, including "script.sh". If you don't see that file, you're not in the right directory.
18. Type "sudo sh 2_patch.sh" and hit enter. You may be prompted for the system password, which again is "lulu". Qterminal will not show the password as you type, so it will look like it's not accepting your input. Just hit enter after typing it.
This command will take a few minutes to complete.
19. Type "rm script.sh", then enter.
20. Now type "mv 3_write.sh script.sh", then enter. Basically, we just replaced the old script.sh with our new version.
21. Go back to the File manager window in your Lubuntu virtual machine and unmount the USB drive by clicking the eject icon. Remove the drive from your computer and take it to the Panasonic player.
22. At your Panasonic player, power off your player (again, make sure it's completely powered off) and insert the drive.
Now power your Panasonic player back on, leaving the usb drive in the player.
23. Return to your computer and the Lubunto virtual machine.
24. Bring up the Patcher window or reopen Patcher if closed.
In the Patcher, type your IP address in the top left corner and click "Connect."
25. Once connected, click "Exec Script."
IMPORTANT: You are now writing to the Panasonic player, which will take anywhere from 15 to 25 minutes. If the player turns off during that process, it could brick it (i.e. render it permanently inoperable). Your Panasonic player will turn off automatically if no button on the remote is pressed after 20 minutes. To prevent auto-shutdown, you should press the navigation arrows on the remote around the 15 minute mark. Do not open any of the menus, just use the navigation left/right arrows.
The patcher will write fma5 and then say "### DONE ### (this will happen within a few minutes), then it will write fma7 and say "### DONE ###" for a second time. (This will take 15-25 minutes so don’t panic and think it’s stuck!)
Make sure you don't stop it prematurely, otherwise you may brick your player.
Best not to use your computer for anything else while this process is happening, except for making sure it doesn't go into power-saving mode. If the Patcher closes or crashes, re-open the Patcher (but DO NOT turn off the Panasonic player or remove the usb drive) and try again.
26. Once the patcher is complete, return to your Panasonic Player. Turn it off and remove the USB drive.
Turn the player back on. In order to play discs from other regions, you will need to enter some RegionFreedom codes using your Panasonic remote.
For a complete list of codes, refer to the file named PanasonicCodefree.pdf inside the Panasonic-Patcher directory on the Lubuntu desktop.
For initial testing purpose, here are the most useful codes:
Code to change disc region:
OPT OPT OPT DVDREGION BLUREGION
OPT = The Option button on your Panasonic Remote
DVDREGION = Dvd Region (1=Region 1, 2=Region 2, 3=Region 3, etc.)
BLUREGION = Blu-ray Region (1=Region A, 2=Region B, 3=Region C.)
When your player is powered-on and at the main menu, enter the code. Once entered, the unit will restart, then you can check to see if the code worked with an appropriate disc.
So for Dvd Region 2 and Blue Ray Region B, the code would be:
OPT OPT OPT 2 2
We also recommend that you turn on Advanced Features with the following code:
OPT OPT OPT 9 1
Advanced Features will override the default mechanism for determining the country code setting of your player. (Please note: Country code is NOT the same thing as Region Code.) TLDR, this will play some discs that otherwise wouldn't work. You can also manually set a specific country code. Refer to PanasonicCodefree.pdf for more info.
Advanced Features also gives you more playback control (being able to turn off subtitles, pause the video, or return to the main menu at times when the disc manufacturer prhibits you from doing so.)
Advanced Features also deactivates off Automatic Power-Off, which would otherwise turn off the player after a certain time of inactivity.
27. Once you have tested your player with a disc from a different region, you may close all windows and shut down the Lubuntu virtual machine. Congratulations! You now have a region-free player!

If you encountered any errors in the process, please make sure you didn't skip any steps. You can refer to the following AvForums thread to see if there are solutions: https://www.avforums.com/...regionfreedom.2441584/
The most common mistakes seem to be 1. forgetting to completely power down your usb drive before removing it from the player and 2. forgeting to hit "Exex script" the two times you need to do it in the Patcher.
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Credits for the program and a lot of information about the RF changes go to JohnyL from AVForums. This patch could not have been done without him.
Hopefully someone will help improve the firmware further like *real* PUO Off.
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